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Thursday, November 15. 2007Concert Review: Tool at the Frank Erwin Center, Austin, TexasTrackbacks
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Your review might carry a little more weight if you didn't think Sabbath toured with Van Halen in '97!
Sorry - that was a mis-type - I meant to say 1977 and have corrected it as such.
You mentioned there was a photogragher there who was allowed to photogragh during the first song. I was wondering if you knew, or could find out, where those photos might be posted or where to view them at. My boyfriend was supposed to attend the show with me, but is very ill and was in surgery, so he didn't get to go. But it would be nice to be able to show him a few pics from the show, since he is a huge TOOL fan and was sooooo disappointed at missing the show. Thanx!
I am sorry. I don't know who the approved photographer was, but it wasn't anyone I know.
Wow, I was at that Sabbath/Van Halen show and I have related the story of how VH ruled and Sabbath sucked many times before. If Tool was that bad last night you have my condolences for buying a ticket. I never liked Tool anyway and I think the band name is perfect in reference to the lead singer. Nice pic of him with a faux-hawk. It's a stick on in case anyone was wondering
I'm not sure you even attended the same concert that I did. Either I have no clue what actually sounds good, or something because out of the four Tool shows I've been to this was the best overall performance. To me the band sounded great. Danny gave his usual top-notch performance, and I thought Justin stold the show with his driving bass. The show started off really intense, but did lag a bit towards the middle, and then finished pretty strong with Vicarious.
I am glad you enjoyed the show Cooper. I guess it's a matter of perspective and possibly placement. You could have been in an audio sweet spot I was unable to locate. I switched positions several times but was unable to find a place that made it sound good to me. I am glad you were and were able to enjoy it.
What was the set list? Going in two weeks...in LA... went last fall and wanted to see the difference in the songs. Any help would be fabulous.
This review hold no credibility to me at all. First, the person reviewing this show is like 50 years old. I've seen Tool eight times dating back to 1993 and they have never sounded "loose or sloppy". Maynard has been in the back in the shadows ever since the Aenima tours. I'm sure Maynard would sincerly apologize to this clown for not being the "front man" that he is accustomed to seeing in concert such as Steven Tyler and Fred Durst.
Thank you for your input.
Maynard James Keenan, born April 17, 1964, is only 7 months younger than I am, which makes him 43 and me 44. Strangely, both of us knew Bill Hicks, who was the roommate of one of my friends in college. I feel that if you pay $50 dollars to SEE a band perform you should be able to SEE the band. If you are happy with the Tool performances you have seen and feel that it was a value to you, great. I am sure that there are plenty of others that saw the show as well and enjoyed it just as much as you.
I was at the Tool show at the Austin Music Hall as well and you are right it was almost a religious experience. Tool has evolved though and are artists who are evolving and growing. Maynard has been in the back of the stage for quite some time now so it isn't something new. He stands in the back because it isn't Maynard and then Tool it is simply Tool and he wants it to stay that way. If you think Tool is simply Maynard you are sadly mistaken. Danny Carey is one of the best drummers I have ever seen. Adam Jones is a master on the guitar and Justim Chamcellor is simply one of the best Bass players in rock music. Maynard does not want to stand out in front of the band and it be all about him like alot of people like you want him to be. Tool is a band not one man, he wants it to be about the whole sound of Tool not Maynards lyrics and then the rest of the band. I will be at the show tonight in Houston and expect to enjoy it fully. Aenima was a great album and they will never reach that height again, it was their White Album or Sgt Peppers. Lateralus and 10,000 Days are great albums also but can't stand up to Aenima so you can't compare this tour to the Aenima tour. They are totally different albums and tours.
I am nowhere near 50 years old...but, the reviewer is correct. I have seen Tool a few times in Houston and also in Toronto--ALL GREAT SHOWS!
The reviewer is RIGHT about the sound at the Austin show. I could not even HEAR Maynard. I could barely make out the lyrics over the music. I could hear annoying I-Think-I'm-Sexy-As-I-Sing-To-Tool chicks in the audience better than I could hear the dude whose music I love to blast in my car.
Maynard stands to the side in almost all of the shows. The whole idea behind this placement is that no single band member is more important than the other. If you were only there to see Maynard, then I can see how you would be disappointed, but most fans know that it isn't just Maynard that makes the band. I attended a show last September when Maynard was sick. He only sang about half the time and couldn't scream or anything. I still thought the show was great. Danny, Adam, and Justin are some of the most creative artists out there. Maynard urges everyone to "sacrifice ego" and he would be kind of a hypocrite if he was in front soaking up all the attention.
Tool's shows are modeled different than most other bands. The idea is to experience the music and visuals and feel enlightened. That is the type of show they put on. Focusing attention on the band takes a little of that away. It may not be for everyone, but that is how I believe Tool feels about how they present themselves. They want everything focused on the music, not gimmicks. Now if the sound was bad quality, then yea I would be upset too. In that case, I hope you will give them another chance. I am going to the Houston show tonight.
It was not my intention to criticize the capabilities of the other band members, I know that they are fine musicians in their own right. My criticism of Maynard is that his attempts to show the band members as equals by not giving himself at least equal presence onstage he does a dis-service to the bands fans. I would point out that
the major reason Tool is so successful, and A Perfect Circle as well is Maynards voice. His voice is so distinctive and different that that is what set Tool apart from the almost rans. Certainly there are many die hard fans that have been to many Tool concerts and understand Maynard's motivations and their wanting their fans to focus on the music but there are many Tool concertgoers that aren't die hard fans and that go to a concert expecting to see the band perform. In the 3000+ concerts I have seen this was the only one where I could not see the lead singer. He could have been offstage with a Mr. Microphone and had his mom standing next to the drum kit for all anyone could tell. I don't want gimmicks, gags, pyro, or costumes. I would just like to see the band, the whole band, perform. Thats why I bought a concert ticket. I can buy a CD or a DVD to focus on the music. I hope you enjoy the show tonight.
Yes---there was an opening band called TransAm...the music was acceptable as background music...the "singer" sucked, but at least I could HEAR him...
Anyway, I even convinced my boyfriend to cheer for TransAm so as not to piss off Maynard by dissing his openers...since he refuses encores when the openers get dissed....anyway, I guess Maynard was already pissed with either Austin or the sound quality, but he clearly had already decided not to encore before the audience even got the chance to beg for more.....also, he interacted with "Austin" WAY WAY less than he did for the other cities I've been to......bad day for him? Wednesday blues???? Who knows.
You're obviously not a TOOL fan, the comment you made about his mom is idiotic, on the new album the songs "Wings for Marie" and "10,000 days" are about his dead mother. Don't compare a TOOL experience with horrible Black Sabbath performance from 30 years ago.
I guess it wasn't his mom then...
Hey at least I could SEE Ozzy. I will re-iterate I am a Tool fan that owns(purchased) the entire catalog. I am not a rabid, frothing at the mouth, know the artists family history, willing to watch a black spot in the middle of the stage for $50 Tool fan. I am sorry that he lost his mother. On another topic... It's my understanding that Maynard's security people were confiscating cell phone batteries at his Tool show in Austin when they caught people trying to take pictures of the stage he wasn't on. Why this is interesting is apparently they didn't give them back before they split town and now people trying to get them back are PISSED... If you lost your cell phone battery to Tool in Austin or elsewhere, lemme know... I like the comment above about "Not pissing Maynard off by dissing the backup band..." and then your comments about wings and 10,000 are both about his mother, they certainly seem to contrast with the statements about it not being Maynard and Tool but just Tool. I was told by people in the know that Maynard has his own private bus and own personal security apart from the band or the tour or the venue. Maynard may be great on disc but he either has the strangest case of Enochlophobia I have ever heard of or is suffering from Borderline Personality Disorder. It makes for great music but a lousy performance.
Don't get me wrong, I LOOOOVE Maynard on the side, behind a screen, in front, naked, clothed, blue, or however else I can experience him sharing his music...I just wish the sound quality/acoustics had been better at this particular venue.....yes, the MUSIC is key, and his voice is music to my ears...just wish I could have heard him...:)
This was my first-ever Tool performance. Also, I had not been to a concert at the Erwin Center since the early 90's (Queensryche?) I too was somewhat dismayed at the lack of a frontman being on the stage, but I do understand the points made about Maynard not wanting to hog the spotlight. Their show was pretty tight, especially the bass and drum player. Maynard was very hard to hear. I felt that the short "intermission" near the middle of the set was totally unnecessary. They played less than 2 hours! I was surprised, however, by the acoustics in the arena. They were better than the last time I was there.
I found the comment about being 50 years old amusing. What does that have to do with liking music? I am 55 years old and was at this concert. This was my 5th Tool Concert and when they return next time (probably when I am 60, I will be there again). From my seat, I did find the sound more muddled than usual (for a Tool concert), but I attributed this to the acoustics of the arena more than anything else. Besides, they rocked and that is what counts. They have the most interesting music of just about any band I have ever heard (and I grew up on rock). I don't really think Wings and 10,000 Days plays well in concert, even thoug they are great songs but this is nit picking. For those that were there, count your blessings. This is a group that will be talked about for many years to come and seeing a band jump around on stage to mask bad music is like monkies killing monkies to me.
I was at the TOOL concert in Austin and it was my first ever TOOL show. I must say that I love TOOL and I truly appreciate their music and creative genius and the ways they choose to express it. However, I was very disappointed in the show overall. The sound quality was poor...not to say that the band was not playing well or Maynard was not singing loud enough....it may very well be that the sound equipment was not properly adjusted or something like that. But there is no denying the fact that the vocals were hard to hear most of the time. I was also disappointed in not being able to see the band. Period. Not just Maynard, but the rest of the band was difficult to make out as well, even though some (very little) light was shining on them. Part of the reason I was so excited to go to see TOOL perform live was to be able to WATCH them perform the music I hear on the albums-to see their body language, facial expression, movements, etc., while performing really adds to the experience of the music by really conveying the meanings, emotions, etc. I also wished that Maynard, Adam, Justin, or Danny would have addressed or interacted with the audience just a little bit more than they did. I mean, we all came out to see THEM, some people drove from other cities even, it would have been nice to be able to go away with a personal memory of a comment or something by the band to 'Austin', 'Texas', anything really. A good, loud "FU!" would have even sufficed.
I still love TOOL, and I will forgive them...maybe next time....
This was my sixth Tool show. I have seen them at small venues, arenas, festivals and the Frank Erwin center Wednesday night, probably the perfect size venue to contain their hypnotizing fury. I live in Austin as do the 22 of my friends that attended the show, sitting in all areas of the arena. EVERY single person I talked to said this was the absolute best sounding Tool show they have seen to date. The tones were rich, the bass deep and the vocals clean. I myself, sat 10 rows in front of Justin and despite being deaf for 2 days, I couldn't have asked for a better seat. Although the setlist was a little typical and shallow, the jams, extended bridges and an overall perfection of musical timing made up. THE END.
Hey quick question,
I am flying from NJ to CO on the 21st the same night Tool is in town. Concert at 8 and flight gets in at 8. What time did tool take the stage?
Its true, maynard's words were difficult to understand. They played almost the exact same set of songs as when I saw them back in may in San Antonio and Corpus. I paid A LOT of money for my floor ticket on ebay and the show was worth every penny. Despite those things I still walked out of there with a smile on my face. maybe its because i dont really need to understand what he is saying. The music still gave me chills. Danny was amazing as usual, same goes for the rest of the band. I think the music they play is enough "interaction" with the crowd, I didnt go there to hear a maynard speech
I was actually looking for a review of the Houston show on 11/16......I found this one. I have seen Tool 7 times now and this was UNDOUBTEDLY the worst TOOL show I have ever seen.....We couldn't hear Maynard, either and his description of the sound system was dead on to what my opinion if it was. They're still my fav band, but I think they need to can their sound engineer.
I'll add my two cents worth I suppose. I am about the same age as the original poster (actually the same age as Maynard) so I guess I will fall in the "old guy" category too. Me and my girlfriend were seeing Tool for the first time and were both very excited. I came away disappointed. The first comment of the night was when my GF said "I don't like this, you can't even see the singer." I thought this might be the case as I have heard about Maynard's stage presence or lack thereof. But she was disappointed. We were both disappointed in the sound. I have to agree with several folks, I could NOT hear Maynard hardly at all. And I was dead center stage, though in the 42 section. I loved the first half of the show anyways given the play list. But after the break, I nearly fell asleep waiting for something with some rythym to listen too. I just thought the second hour drug on forever until they finally closed with Vicarious. I would have much rather heard some songs like Aenema, Sober, etc than the slow, plodding songs they chose. I am glad to have had the Tool experience, but admit I don't have a strong desire to see them again any time soon.
I guess I don't understand not being able to see Maynard. I sat Section 43, Row 27, directly opposite of the stage, and I COULD see him. Now, I couldn't necessarily make out his facial gestures, but he was there unless you were blind (at least in from where I sat). As far as the sound, I saw him in San Atonio in May, and now in Austin, and didn't think they sounded BAD?!? I enjoyed the show but will agree they could have varied the list - although they did play Vicarious, which they didn't in San Antonio. I enjoyed the show. I guess it's in the eye of the beholder...
Yes to firing the sound people. I do not regret being at the Austin show...and, I do not like long speeches from bands either (Bono, anyone???)...and, yes, the music was good and ethereal and somewhat "good enough"...but, when the band interacts with a city even a little bit, it makes it somewhat worth it to see them in different cities (i.e., in Toronto, Maynard begged the Canadians to "buy my country" and thanked them for spending their "Canadian dollars" on him since the U.S. dollar is "worthless now"--it wasn't hostile or anything, but it made the show the TORONTO SHOW)...and, there, the music and vocals were all very clear. BTW, what were the signs he (or whomever) held up in Austin? Anyhoo, I plan to keep on TOOLing....hopefully, someone will let Maynard know that disappointing sound quality (at least in certain areas of certain venues in certain cities) will NOT RESULT in any MORE of us spending our "worthless U.S. dollars" to help him keep adding wings to his winery.........PEACE AND LOVE TO ALL TOOL FANS! :)
Right on, Veronica! That is all I was saying...I don't want or expect a long drawn out speech or anything...just a little something to make it "The Austin Show" or whatever. I love Tool, don't get me wrong. They are totally special and unique. But a little something personal to go away with would have set that show apart from all the rest and made IT special as well. It was almost like it was a pain in Maynard's ass to HAVE to be in Austin, and HAVE to give the performance, and HAVE to be there. period. Danny Carey breathed more life and energy into that performance than the whole band put together, in my opinion. But, you know, they just came off a lengthy European tour, so maybe they were just exhausted, jet lagged, and tired. Who knows. You don't really know what anyone is going through personally at any given time, so you can't really pass judgement on them. But voicing your opinions or constructive criticisms never hurt anyone.
I AM an old fan (56 years of age) of TOOL. I consider them to be my favorite band that is currently performing -- tribal music, mesmerizing light show, urgent message, and a sincere group of guys. I would have loved to be in Austin to see them recently, but they didn't check with me before they booked the show. (I am visiting Austin next week; ah shucks) I have seen them there (Erwin Center) before ('02), as well as Sunken Garden in San Antonio. Also seen them in MASS, NJ, and elsewhere. All I can say is that I have seen Maynard up front and personal (white face, fake tits, etc.) as well as hidden in the back. For me, it's all about the pulse, and every show I have been at, Danny has carried the load. The band, including Maynard's vocals, serves the total sound. They get it, I get it, the army gets it. If you want to dig a personality-based, "front man" experience, go watch old David Bowie videos. Tool is something else.
i waited so long to see a tool concert, and i heard so many great things. i went to the show in houston and it was horrible. everything that you described was the same as the houston performance. i wished i would've seen them last year....
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